Megaversal Remix

cyber-yukongil v2.5 · Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject: Rules discussions

didn't want to dirty up the game thread, and I think there might be a need (at least by me) to occassionaly ask about various rules and/or abilities, especially since I don't have any of the books.

so first up; in the current game thread, I took a covering action and as far as I know there is no official rule for covering fire, so I propose the following rule, which I've used to great success in D20 Modern games, which is just a slight variation of Aid Another. Basically the only difference is instead of you having to threaten an opponent, you must instead be within firing distance of them and the DC is 15 instead of 10. In D20 Modern it works well with the automatic fire rules, allowing you to lay down suppressive fire over an area. But I don't know if Star Wars Saga uses those rules.

oh also, I allowed Aid Another actions to be part of an attack action, so you could make multiples in a round if you wanted, instead of it being a Standard Action all by itself, didn't think it was worth the entire round of actions for a measly +2 to AC or Attack, especially at higher levels.

so anyways, just a thought
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The Novastar · Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject:

With standard autofire rules, you discharge 10 shots, and fill a 2x2 area with blasterfire (which is basically the corridor width; you're covering a cross section); the attacker makes an attack roll, and if you wander into the firezone, if it beats your Reflex Defense, you take full damage; if it's below your Defense, you still take half damage (barring special Feats/Talents).

Hence, no sane person will just charge down a corridor, since even half damage from a Blaster Rifle will down most NPC's.

Aid Another still takes an attack action, since certain classes have Talents that can make them give better bonuses (a Noble can get to +5 bonus every round, and a Jedi can use a Force point to give someone a +10 bonus for one round, if they buy the right Talents)

cyber-yukongil v2.5 · Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject:

oh, good to see they actually included them, well nevermind then, that's pretty good.

now for a question; what does the Force skill do? I know it activates your Force powers, but apparently its a cool jedi sense power as well. Anything else?
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The Novastar · Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject:

cyber-yukongil v2.5 · Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject:

coolio
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Alejandro · Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject:

cyber-yukongil v2.5 · Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject:

aw shucks

well good to know anyway.

beyond game balance though, which I can understand, do they give a reason why no use inside armor? I can buy DnD's somantic argument for spellcasters, but Force use always seemed to me like it would ignore such things.
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Tiree · Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject:

The Novastar · Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject:

cyber-yukongil v2.5 · Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject:

good thing to keep in mind for future planning.
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Tiree · Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject:

The Novastar · Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:50 pm Post subject:

The Novastar · Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject:

Ok, we may have our first House Rule. Technically, for Force Disarm to work, it needs to beat the opponents Reflex Save by 10. It's now being changed from "Reflex Defense+10" to "touch Reflex Defense+10", which means that Armor bonuses go away.

Alejandro · Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject:

The Novastar · Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:43 pm Post subject:

Alejandro · Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject:

Tiree · Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject:

Al, it took all my effort not to shoot at the sith-ette!

Alejandro · Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject:

Tiree · Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:14 pm Post subject:

No, I have been in a Campaign of Novastar's before. So this stems from that. I start shooting at bad guys, maybe 50 meters away. Jedi, who only have lightsabers run into Hand to Hand Combat. Because I deem them stupid (as they can see that I am shooting at bad guys), I continue shooting. Then hitting the Jedi!

The Novastar · Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject:

cyber-yukongil v2.5 · Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:36 am Post subject:

do they not have the penalty to shoot safely into melee anymore?
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Alejandro · Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:09 am Post subject:

cyber-yukongil v2.5 · Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject:

well that seems like the firing into melee cover bonus from 3.x. You used to be able to take a -4 penalty to shoot safely into melee with your buddies, which you could ignore with Precise Shot. So I was wondering if they got rid of that "safety fire" option, cause if not you should be able to shoot into melee without fear of hitting a party memeber.
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The Novastar · Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject:

cyber-yukongil v2.5 · Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:49 am Post subject:

very good to know. Wink

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